Kenya IGF Online Discussions Day 1: Content Regulation on the Internet

@Barrack, I agree with you on the need for evidence-based approaches to
policy discussions. However, a behavioral approach would be more effective
in promoting compliance. While Obama was selling entrepreneurship as a
solution to our problems, he invested heavily in behavioral-based policy
solutions to social problems in the United States,
time.com/4042689/social-behavioral-sciences-team/ Anyway, that is an
aside.

Its not that its cool to speak against morality, its just that one person’s
anti-gay rights for instance, is another person’s oppressor on identity
etc…..

My would my grandmother be embarrassed if she reads, sees or hears this
test is more universal.

I don’t think those devices have unlimited access to content outside the
approved ones, but i could be wrong.

On the matatu industry example, well, true, any industry doesn’t have an
incentive to rush self-regulation, but who says the regulators have the
omniscient knowledge and benevolence to enact the right, well-intentioned
and durable regulations?

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 2:41 PM, David Indeje via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> As regards to the question of morality, the only way out is to be
> pluralistic, reflecting the diversity of the culture in which (we and the
> others) operate and give access to various points of view and right to
> reply. Thus, in the process of socialization, they teach us social
> norms and values, and help us learn what’s expected of us including how we
> are supposed to think, act and look thus, they participate in our
> socialization.
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> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 at 14:27, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <
> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> @ Jefferson,
>>
>> Good points. It is actually cool nowadays to speak against morality
>> because of its relativity. My humble request to you would be for you to
>> look at the issue in light of the Matatu Industry in Nairobi that was asked
>> to self regulate. Is this the best approach, going forwad it would be good
>> for this conversation to be guided by some evidence based research. I am
>> not sure its right to say Children are a minority and should be treated as
>> such when the government is distributing millions of digital devices to our
>> primary schools. The Universal Access Fund is also being used to connect
>> schools to the Internet which will also expose more children to the
>> Internet.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 2:07 PM, anyega jefferson via kictanet <
>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> ​On morality, we should recognize that children are a relatively small
>>> consumer segment of Internet content as ​compared to adults. It is helpful
>>> to consider whether the target audience is a community of shared values or
>>> a market. In my personal view, we are increasingly just a market with
>>> different sub-segments, a minority of whom require protection as opposed to
>>> a community of shared values. Furthermore, it is important to ensure
>>> content regulation does not institutionalize political correctness. The
>>> clamor for safe spaces is injurious in its attempts to muzzle any content
>>> which violates individual taste or beliefs. As a result, maybe a common
>>> sense approach in self-regulation is better. For example, would i be
>>> embarrassed if this content reaches my grandmother?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:58 PM, anyega jefferson <
>>> jeffersonanyega@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We should also consider the role of the media type on the content
>>>> regulation adopted. For instance, should visual, audio and written content
>>>> be subjected to the same standard or different ones.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Grace Bomu via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Two concepts that have dominated recent debates at least on this list
>>>>> are paternalism (decision makers taking away the power of the public to
>>>>> make choices) and agreed norms in the society. For example, a public
>>>>> authority basing decisions on the notion that “western” values are bad for
>>>>> Kenyan society and therefore removing/restricting some content from the
>>>>> public domain.
>>>>> Defining what our collective values, which would guide how far
>>>>> authorities can regulate content is often a pull between generations,
>>>>> classes, rural versus urban folk and religious inclinations.
>>>>> It would help if spaces where most content is viewed promoted content
>>>>> that is generally closer to agreed values in our society. For example, at
>>>>> one point the issue was absence of local content. Through many initiatives
>>>>> and policies such as local websites for government offices and use of
>>>>> technology for public relations, we are now seeing more local content.
>>>>> It is therefore baffling that instead of nurturing this trend,
>>>>> authorities would attempt to curtail it by introducing taxes and other
>>>>> regulatory controls.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Il martedì 10 luglio 2018, Wilson Muroki via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe the issue of morality is a difficult one to agree upon.
>>>>>> What could be immoral to one person could be perfectly okay with another.
>>>>>> So where do we draw the line and whose moral compass will we base the
>>>>>> regulations on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wilson Muroki Njino
>>>>>> Tel: +254 721 991098
>>>>>> Office +254 730 911125
>>>>>> Email: wnmuroki@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:02 PM kanini mutemi via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Cecilia I echo your questions. The issue of morality was introduced
>>>>>>> above as a reason why content regulation is important. I note that we have
>>>>>>> never quite agreed on the issue of morality on this list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you then balance the freedom of opinion and expression with
>>>>>>> the need to control what people produce and consume?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there perhaps a test we can apply when determining whether
>>>>>>> content regulation is a desired approach?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10 Jul 2018, at 12:49, cmaundu— via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello listers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have two questions
>>>>>>> 1. Where do you draw the line between content regulation and freedom
>>>>>>> of expression?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Where do you draw the line between content regulation and net
>>>>>>> neutrality?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10 Jul 2018, at 12:29 PM, carolyne mimano via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thats where ISP’s are liable in my opinion and more community
>>>>>>> policing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, 12:27 pm Ronald Ojino via kictanet, <
>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Kanini et al.
>>>>>>>> In my opinion,content regulation is healthy for any society. It
>>>>>>>> aids in reducing moral decadence that could be brought about with the
>>>>>>>> unregulated space. However, is content filtering sufficient in ensuring
>>>>>>>> that only the correct content is viewed especially with freely availed
>>>>>>>> WiFi at many locations even though parents try to utilize Parental Control
>>>>>>>> Software at home, Imagine situations where some access pornography at
>>>>>>>> places of worship!!
>>>>>>>> Is filtering access at public spaces also the way to go?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 12:18 PM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <
>>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We can also give examples of recent content regulation efforts by
>>>>>>>>> our government.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10 Jul 2018, at 12:16, Peter Wakaba via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Content regulation is the creation, setting and enforcement of
>>>>>>>>> parameters within which various stakeholders in the content ecosystem
>>>>>>>>> engage with this content. Content in this context is then simply
>>>>>>>>> information which is transmitted and stored and received through various
>>>>>>>>> platforms and infrastructure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 10:09 AM, carolyne mimano via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello listers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As we dive more into content regulation we should maybe also
>>>>>>>>>> focus on:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why content is regulated?
>>>>>>>>>> – Copyright reasons,obscene content, bullying and hate
>>>>>>>>>> speech(causing harm to others) security, human dignity, privacy.
>>>>>>>>>> -The different kinds of content-online content, traditional media
>>>>>>>>>> etc
>>>>>>>>>> For online content how different countries/governments are trying
>>>>>>>>>> to regulate online content e.g self filtering, internet service providers
>>>>>>>>>> or anyone that has access to blocking offensive material but fails to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>> Carolyne
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, 9:53 am cmaundu— via kictanet, <
>>>>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Content regulation, is basically content restrictions or
>>>>>>>>>>> monitoring as required by governments or regulatory bodies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Jul 2018, at 9:26 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll start us off with the discussion on Content Regulation on
>>>>>>>>>>> the internet. I find it useful for us to first understand what content
>>>>>>>>>>> regulation means. To this end, I invite your contributions to the following
>>>>>>>>>>> questions–
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (a) What does ‘*content regulation**’* mean?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (b) How is content regulation achieved?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (c) What categories of content face the most regulation?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let’s go!
>>>>>>>>>>>
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