Kenya IGF Online Discussions Day 1: Content Regulation on the Internet

As regards to the question of morality, the only way out is to be
pluralistic, reflecting the diversity of the culture in which (we and the
others) operate and give access to various points of view and right to
reply. Thus, in the process of socialization, they teach us social norms
and values, and help us learn what’s expected of us including how we are
supposed to think, act and look thus, they participate in our socialization.

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On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 at 14:27, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <
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> @ Jefferson,
>
> Good points. It is actually cool nowadays to speak against morality
> because of its relativity. My humble request to you would be for you to
> look at the issue in light of the Matatu Industry in Nairobi that was asked
> to self regulate. Is this the best approach, going forwad it would be good
> for this conversation to be guided by some evidence based research. I am
> not sure its right to say Children are a minority and should be treated as
> such when the government is distributing millions of digital devices to our
> primary schools. The Universal Access Fund is also being used to connect
> schools to the Internet which will also expose more children to the
> Internet.
>
> Regards
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 2:07 PM, anyega jefferson via kictanet <
> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> ​On morality, we should recognize that children are a relatively small
>> consumer segment of Internet content as ​compared to adults. It is helpful
>> to consider whether the target audience is a community of shared values or
>> a market. In my personal view, we are increasingly just a market with
>> different sub-segments, a minority of whom require protection as opposed to
>> a community of shared values. Furthermore, it is important to ensure
>> content regulation does not institutionalize political correctness. The
>> clamor for safe spaces is injurious in its attempts to muzzle any content
>> which violates individual taste or beliefs. As a result, maybe a common
>> sense approach in self-regulation is better. For example, would i be
>> embarrassed if this content reaches my grandmother?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:58 PM, anyega jefferson <
>> jeffersonanyega@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We should also consider the role of the media type on the content
>>> regulation adopted. For instance, should visual, audio and written content
>>> be subjected to the same standard or different ones.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Grace Bomu via kictanet <
>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Two concepts that have dominated recent debates at least on this list
>>>> are paternalism (decision makers taking away the power of the public to
>>>> make choices) and agreed norms in the society. For example, a public
>>>> authority basing decisions on the notion that “western” values are bad for
>>>> Kenyan society and therefore removing/restricting some content from the
>>>> public domain.
>>>> Defining what our collective values, which would guide how far
>>>> authorities can regulate content is often a pull between generations,
>>>> classes, rural versus urban folk and religious inclinations.
>>>> It would help if spaces where most content is viewed promoted content
>>>> that is generally closer to agreed values in our society. For example, at
>>>> one point the issue was absence of local content. Through many initiatives
>>>> and policies such as local websites for government offices and use of
>>>> technology for public relations, we are now seeing more local content.
>>>> It is therefore baffling that instead of nurturing this trend,
>>>> authorities would attempt to curtail it by introducing taxes and other
>>>> regulatory controls.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il martedì 10 luglio 2018, Wilson Muroki via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe the issue of morality is a difficult one to agree upon. What
>>>>> could be immoral to one person could be perfectly okay with another. So
>>>>> where do we draw the line and whose moral compass will we base the
>>>>> regulations on?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Wilson Muroki Njino
>>>>> Tel: +254 721 991098
>>>>> Office +254 730 911125
>>>>> Email: wnmuroki@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 1:02 PM kanini mutemi via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> @Cecilia I echo your questions. The issue of morality was introduced
>>>>>> above as a reason why content regulation is important. I note that we have
>>>>>> never quite agreed on the issue of morality on this list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you then balance the freedom of opinion and expression with
>>>>>> the need to control what people produce and consume?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there perhaps a test we can apply when determining whether content
>>>>>> regulation is a desired approach?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10 Jul 2018, at 12:49, cmaundu— via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello listers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have two questions
>>>>>> 1. Where do you draw the line between content regulation and freedom
>>>>>> of expression?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Where do you draw the line between content regulation and net
>>>>>> neutrality?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10 Jul 2018, at 12:29 PM, carolyne mimano via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thats where ISP’s are liable in my opinion and more community policing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, 12:27 pm Ronald Ojino via kictanet, <
>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kanini et al.
>>>>>>> In my opinion,content regulation is healthy for any society. It aids
>>>>>>> in reducing moral decadence that could be brought about with the
>>>>>>> unregulated space. However, is content filtering sufficient in ensuring
>>>>>>> that only the correct content is viewed especially with freely availed
>>>>>>> WiFi at many locations even though parents try to utilize Parental Control
>>>>>>> Software at home, Imagine situations where some access pornography at
>>>>>>> places of worship!!
>>>>>>> Is filtering access at public spaces also the way to go?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 12:18 PM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can also give examples of recent content regulation efforts by
>>>>>>>> our government.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10 Jul 2018, at 12:16, Peter Wakaba via kictanet <
>>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Content regulation is the creation, setting and enforcement of
>>>>>>>> parameters within which various stakeholders in the content ecosystem
>>>>>>>> engage with this content. Content in this context is then simply
>>>>>>>> information which is transmitted and stored and received through various
>>>>>>>> platforms and infrastructure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 10:09 AM, carolyne mimano via kictanet <
>>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello listers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As we dive more into content regulation we should maybe also focus
>>>>>>>>> on:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why content is regulated?
>>>>>>>>> – Copyright reasons,obscene content, bullying and hate
>>>>>>>>> speech(causing harm to others) security, human dignity, privacy.
>>>>>>>>> -The different kinds of content-online content, traditional media
>>>>>>>>> etc
>>>>>>>>> For online content how different countries/governments are trying
>>>>>>>>> to regulate online content e.g self filtering, internet service providers
>>>>>>>>> or anyone that has access to blocking offensive material but fails to do so.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>> Carolyne
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, 9:53 am cmaundu— via kictanet, <
>>>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Content regulation, is basically content restrictions or
>>>>>>>>>> monitoring as required by governments or regulatory bodies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Jul 2018, at 9:26 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’ll start us off with the discussion on Content Regulation on
>>>>>>>>>> the internet. I find it useful for us to first understand what content
>>>>>>>>>> regulation means. To this end, I invite your contributions to the following
>>>>>>>>>> questions–
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (a) What does ‘*content regulation**’* mean?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (b) How is content regulation achieved?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (c) What categories of content face the most regulation?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let’s go!
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> faster
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>>>
>>>
>>> —
>>> Anyega M Jefferson
>>>
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>>> Start where you are,use what you have and do what you can.
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>>>
>>
>>
>> —
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