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What’s Up New Policy

Signal Advance Inc <www.signaladvance.com/> ( whose stock went x11)
has no relation with the Signal <signal.org/> messaging platform.

As this is a tech policy group, this may be a useful read (less so for a
non tech person):

medium.com/swlh/whatsapp-doesnt-read-your-messages-it-doesn-t-need-to-7ce0ec2846f9

excerpt:

“End to end encryption is more about security than privacy. We are
protected against unknown actors but have no control over what known actors
will do.”

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:04 AM Rawgee l.k via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> My take it could be more of under table business trade agreement between
> Whatsapp and Signal.
> After the announcement from Elon Musk [coincidentally the world’s richest
> man] for guys to move to signal app the stock jumped to 1100%.
> Screenshot on the trade app overview.
> Intresting times both for data privacy and financial services.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 00:39 Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Those new terms from Facebook/WhatsApp are terrible. Bad for privacy.
>>
>> To illustrate how good laws and punitive fines protect citizens, Facebook
>> has different rules for Europe. Because of GDPR, these new changes do not
>> appear in the European version of the updated terms and conditions.
>> Facebook later confirmed that the rules will not apply in the EU, EEA, or
>> the UK.
>> digit.fyi/facebook-to-access-whatsapp-user-data-except-in-europe/
>>
>> It seems the rest of the world does not matter, even with Data Protection
>> laws available in countries like Kenya. Perhaps it is contempt from
>> Facebook for smaller jurisdictions (What will you do? attitude. – Mtado?).
>> This would be a good intray for the new Kenyan Data Commissioner.
>>
>> My take is that the new rules will not hurt WhatsApp in the long run
>> because of the phenomenon called Network Effect (the value or utility a
>> user derives from a good or service depends on the number of users of
>> compatible products) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect
>>
>> Those Church groups, Estate groups, Former school groups, investment
>> groups, … are not moving to Signal or Telegram. A few techie groups and
>> privacy-oriented groups may move, but my prediction is those are the
>> exceptions.
>> ______________________
>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
>> www.linkedin.com/in/mwendwa-kivuva
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 at 22:31, David Indeje via kictanet <
>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Listers,
>>>
>>> I think all apps have been sharing our data. It is only that Facebook
>>> has gone public, after all it also owns Instagram. What if it buys Signal
>>> for the Signalers?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 8:23 PM John Kariuki via kictanet <
>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Listers
>>>>
>>>> What are your thoughts on the new terms of service and privacy on
>>>> What’s Up? Facebook plans to share What’s Up data with other Facebook
>>>> products starting from 8th February 2021.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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