The Kenya Information and Communication (Amendment) Bill, 2019 – No. 61 of 2019 (Malulu Injendi Bill)

Dear Mwendwa Kivuva,

Thank you so much for answering the many questions that I had.

Regards,
Mildred Achoch.

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On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 4:11 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> We need to explain the issues at hand very soberly because it seems there
> is a huge misconception between the DIGITAL and ANALOG world.
>
> The digital world shadows what happens in the real world. The only
> difference is the medium. When I start a group (chama, merry-go-round,
> investment, motivation, support group, family …) for whatever reason in
> the analogy world also know as the real world, I am not required to get any
> licenses or authority. This is just like-minded individuals coming together
> for social good. That is not any different when people come together in the
> digital world. And there are many ways to come together in the digital
> world. The first one was IRC, chatboards, then email groups, then email
> lists like KICTANet or Skunkworks. With the consolidation of technology, we
> now have platform-based groups like Whatsapp, Telegram, Wechat, facebook,
> etc. There is no difference between a WhatsApp group and an email list
> group like KICTANet, or a chama meeting at Antonio’s fish and chips hotel.
> Only the medium is different. If you license WhatsApp groups, also license
> email lists and real-world chamas.
>
> Let us go to blogs. Why would anyone want to license a blog? Do they even
> know what a blog is? The name evolved from a website log to a weblog to the
> shorter form – blog. A personal journal now facilitated by tech. I want to
> posit here that it is not possible to license a blog, and I will give the
> reasons below. The first blogs were individual simple html websites. Then
> we had individual free hosted blogging platforms like Angelfire, BlogSpot,
> blogger, WordPress.com, Tumblr, etc. But with the advancement of tech, we
> saw consolidation. First, there are blogging platforms that run curated
> content like medium.com, or circled.com. Then we have more consolidation
> where you can run content specific blogs like YouTube that supports video,
> or SoundCloud for only voice content and podcasts. Finally, microblogging
> websites like twitter allow you to blog short contents on a tweet, or
> longer content through threads. Now, of all these types of logs, which ones
> would need a license? Can you prevent someone from sending a tweet? Posting
> on Medium.com, posting on SoundCloud, YouTube? The only thing this law
> would do is prevent the youth in Kenya from innovating and developing their
> own next-generation platforms like twitter. Also, registration of .ke
> domains will stagnate, and reduce. Why would I register a domain where I am
> subjected to regulation, while I can go to hosted platforms like Medium, or
> register my blog with a .com domain? Finally, where is the line between a
> blog and a website? Is kictanet.or.ke a blog? What about nation.co.ke?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 09:34 Salim Ali via kictanet <
> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I think this clearance for Group Admins is very essential.
>>
>> We approve too much unjustifiable info to the society.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Salim Ali
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:43 PM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet <
>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >
>> > Listers,
>> >
>> > Reference an article on Standard today (24th September 2019) titled
>> “Facebook, WhatsApp groups admins to seek CA clearance” attached is the
>> said bill.
>> >
>> > Whilst agreeably we need to regulate the social media inline with
>> Internet Governance; the essence of this bill is both BACKWARD and
>> OPPRESSIVE for lack of stronger terms to use.
>> >
>> > Having said that, it is imperative that we go through this with a tooth
>> comb and point it’s flaws and suggest better ways – a better way is
>> definitely there. On this note, I think it is high time that we started
>> looking at issue and put up measures before we get hit by such bills and
>> start fire fighting.
>> >
>> > Let’s roll up our sleeves.
>> >
>> > Twahir Hussein Kassim
>> > Email: twahir@hussein.me.ke
>> > Cellphone: +254 734 259 223
>> > WhatsApp: +254 722 259 223
>> >
>> >
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>> online that you follow in real life: respect people’s times and bandwidth,
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> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>
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> online that you follow in real life: respect people’s times and bandwidth,
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