The case for and against #deletefacebook

Ebele,

If that’s the case, then I guess what they do is get a ‘screenshot’ of your
photo and maybe *overlay* it on your newsfeed / timeline. The *impression*
it gives you is that the photo is already uploaded…

Thanks…

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com> wrote:

>
> Clarification-your photos are not auto-uploaded to Facebook. The app has
> access to your photos and essentially shows you your own photo folder and
> asks if you want to upload. Your pictures do not get uploaded to Facebook
> until you upload them yourself.
>
> I do think it’s a good piece of feedback for our product teams to know
> that a) this feature is confusing to you, and b) that showing users their
> photos and asking if they want to upload can be off-putting/not a good
> experience.
>
> Best,
> Ebele
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
>
> Ebele,
>
> Thanks for your update, I will check on the contacts settings as you have
> indicated.
>
> I still think though some of the choices we make are not very *clearly*
> spelt out when we make them. For instance, I can understand the need to
> sync my contacts, but *not* my call & sms history! And this is especially
> so for those of use (most of us?) who use our phones for both personal &
> official business.
>
> My recommendation, have at least three settings clearly indicating what
> you would use them for, if at all!
> 1. Sync contacts
> 2. Sync Call records (***)
> 3. Sync SMS & Messages (***)
>
> As regards the photos this is what happen(s) / happened. Normally I would
> not give FB access to my photos.However, at some point I needed to upload a
> certain specific photo on to some FB markets that I participate in.
>
> Shortly as I was still in the market and as I was scrolling though my
> newsfeed I started seeing a number of family photos that I had taken
> earlier, already uploaded but kind of greyed out, with FB asking me whether
> I wanted to share them.
>
> That is very disconcerting!
>
> Again, if a user gives access to his photo library for a *single* photo,
> that should not mean *all* my photos are auto-uploaded to FB, then FB
> prompts me to share them…
>
> My recommendation would be to have at least two settings:
> 1. Upload a single photo
> 2. Auto- Upload *ALL* my photos
>
> And, I don’t consider myself a *pro* FB user, it may very well be that
> indeed this is already covered so thanks for being our ‘customer-care’,
> appreciate 🙂
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>>
>>
>> Answers below-for your first question, it’s VERY important to clarify
>> that Facebook does not “pick up” your contacts. You have to expressly agree
>> to upload your contacts. For example, I have never agreed to this, so my
>> contacts have never been uploaded. If you change your mind about the
>> permission you have given, or if you accidentally gave permission, please
>> see below for how to opt back out. Note that this feature is “opt-in”, so
>> express agreement is required for it to be happening.
>>
>>
>>
>> That is the same for the photographs, so can you please clarify your
>> question? Are you saying that you granted permission for specific photos to
>> be posted on your page, and now you want to delete them? Facebook does not
>> automatically upload any photographs to your page.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Call and text history logging is part of an opt-in feature for
>> people using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. This helps you find and
>> stay connected with the people you care about, and provides you with a
>> better experience across Facebook. People have to expressly agree to use
>> this feature. If, at any time, they no longer wish to use this feature they
>> can turn it off in settings
>> , or here
>> for Facebook
>> Lite users, and all previously shared call and text history shared via that
>> app is deleted. While we receive certain permissions from Android,
>> uploading this information has always been opt-in only.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 5:37 PM
>> *To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Cc: *Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] The case for and against #deletefacebook
>>
>>
>>
>> Ebele,
>>
>>
>>
>> Good to see FB represented here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Got two questions:
>>
>> 1. Supposing FB has picked up my contacts and SMS and I would like to
>> delete any prior data that has been uploaded, how would I go about that?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. I also noticed that when I allow FB contacts to my PhotoGallery on
>> Android for purposes of being able to select pictures to upload, by
>> default, it then would upload *all* new pictures taken and ask me whether
>> I’d like to share them on my timeline.
>>
>> Is there a way to also delete any such content that FB has picked from my
>> phone and auto-uploaded?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018, 19:30 Ebele Okobi via kictanet, <
>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> This is useful context, below. Please do let me know if there are
>> additional questions or concerns. I do appreciate how significant an issue
>> this is, and am happy to answer questions and relay concerns internally.
>>
>>
>>
>> newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/03/fact-check-your-call-an
>> d-sms-history/
>>
>> March 25, 2018
>> Fact Check: Your Call and SMS History
>>
>> You may have seen some recent reports that Facebook has been logging
>> people’s call and SMS (text) history without their permission.
>>
>> This is not the case.
>> Opt-in features in Facebook Lite and Messenger
>>
>> Call and text history logging is part of an opt-in feature for people
>> using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. This helps you find and stay
>> connected with the people you care about, and provides you with a better
>> experience across Facebook. People have to expressly agree to use this
>> feature. If, at any time, they no longer wish to use this feature they can
>> turn it off in settings ,
>> or here for
>> Facebook Lite users, and all previously shared call and text history shared
>> via that app is deleted. While we receive certain permissions from Android,
>> uploading this information has always been opt-in only.
>>
>> We introduced this feature for Android users a couple of years ago.
>> Contact importers are fairly common among social apps and services as a way
>> to more easily find the people you want to connect with. This was first
>> introduced in Messenger in 2015, and later offered as an option in Facebook
>> Lite, a lightweight version of Facebook for Android.
>> How it works
>>
>> When you sign up for Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android, or log into
>> Messenger on an Android device, you are given the option to continuously
>> upload your contacts as well as your call and text history. For Messenger,
>> you can either turn it on, choose ‘learn more’ or ‘not now’. On Facebook
>> Lite, the options are to turn it on or ‘skip’. If you chose to turn this
>> feature on, we will begin to continuously log this information, which can
>> be downloaded at any time using the Download Your Information tool
>> .
>>
>> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>>
>> If, at any point, you no longer wish to continuously upload this
>> information, you can easily turn this feature off in your settings
>> . You can also turn off
>> continuous call and text history logging while keeping contact uploading
>> enabled. You can also go to this page
>> to see which
>> contacts you have uploaded from Messenger, and you can delete all contact
>> information you’ve uploaded from that app should you choose.
>> We never sell this data, and this feature does not collect the content of
>> your text messages or calls
>>
>> When this feature is enabled, uploading your contacts also allows us to
>> use information like when a call or text was made or received. This feature
>> does not collect the content of your calls or text messages. Your
>> information is securely stored and we do not sell this information to third
>> parties. You are always in control of the information you share with
>> Facebook.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 3:29 PM, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <
>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Facebook harvested phone call and text data from Android users
>>
>>
>>
>> Facebook harvested phone call and text data from Android users
>>
>> Brandon A. Weber
>>
>> Have an Android phone or device? You might want to read this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> BIGTHINK might have thoughts similar to your said friend.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from Android phones
>> [Updated]
>>
>>
>>
>> Facebook scraped call, text message data for years from Android phones
>> […
>>
>> Maybe check your data archive to see if Facebook’s algorithms know who
>> you called.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Factual or otherwise? Ars Technica makes reference to an FB rejoiner.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It should not be lost that even the most basic loyalty card is for
>> decision making to serve you the customer better – data by the issuer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Be blessed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards/Wangari
>>
>>

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