@Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> well put.
@Twahir Hussein Kassim <twahir@hussein.me.ke> indeed. My sense is that the
ISOC Board didn’t read the writing on the wall on this. Which is
unfortunate. As we famously say in Kenya – Vitu Kwa Ground in Different.
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On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:09 PM Noah via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> So many questions around governance still linger non the less I personally
> give Kudos to ICANN for the move though some think it should be hands off
> such transactions but .org is more than just transaction.
>
> I think the most important outcome of this move by ICANN is that atleast
> the chances for authoritarian states to censor .org is somewhat hindered.
> Imagine a .org run by a for profit corporations that is subjected to some
> powerful state influence.
>
> Noah
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 May 2020, 10:18 Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet, <
> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> I think the key word phrase here is *large Internet Community* they
>> serve. There have been a series of ZOOM Meetings by ISOC from the onset of
>> this. However, it was probably confined (not certain) to only ISOC
>> members. From the deliberations during the meetings, I must say they were
>> very open minded and consultative. Drawing conclusions from what has been
>> exchanged here, seems like the *consultative net* might not have been
>> cast wide enough.
>>
>> Anyways, it is water under the bridge now and lessons need to be drawn
>> from this event. Lessons I have personally drawn are: –
>>
>> 1. Governance is applicable to all
>> 2. Public interest discussions should be very inclusive i.e. include
>> affected people from within and without the organisations
>> 3. For transparency, reasons should be given for decisions taken by
>> any decision making body.
>>
>> My 2 cents
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 8:06 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Not even ISOC should be allowed to ‘sell-off’ Public assets without
>>> consultations. I think that sometimes we have this sense that Do-Gooder
>>> organizations like ISOC are above Governance Issues. This is not the case.
>>> In fact, they should be held to higher ideals.
>>>
>>> My sense is that this Ethos deal might as well have been a great idea.
>>> However, the way it was executed left a lot to be desired. A lot. I got the
>>> sense that the ISOC Board took the attitude that – *We know
>>> better…Trust us…*Without sensitizing the large Internet Community
>>> that they serve.
>>>
>>> Kudos to the ICANN Board for taking the position to reject the deal.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 9:22 PM Noah via kictanet <
>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is this a good move by the ICANN board or should ICANN be hands of
>>>> business and continue playing the coordination and administration.?
>>>>
>>>> Is the .org is better off with PIR folks or should it have been managed
>>>> by the folks at Ethos?
>>>>
>>>> Then there is a school of thought that says non-profits are best off
>>>> not trusting folks who are after stock/profit to manage such a tld which so
>>>> many have come to depend on.
>>>>
>>>> In anycase, PIR needs continued support from the folks at ISOC who am
>>>> sure must be very disappointed by this outcome.
>>>>
>>>> So even post IANA translation and the empowered community we still got lots
>>>> of Politics, lobbyists, courts etc going.
>>>>
>>>> Noah
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 12:49 PM Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The ICANN Board made the decision to reject the proposed change of
>>>>> control and entity conversion request that Public Interest Registry (PIR)
>>>>> submitted to ICANN.
>>>>>
>>>>> After completing extensive due diligence, the ICANN Board finds that
>>>>> withholding consent of the transfer of PIR from the Internet Society (
>>>>> ISOC) to Ethos Capital is reasonable, and the right thing to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> ICANN’s role is to ensure the stable and secure operation of the
>>>>> Internet’s unique identifier systems. We are dedicated to making the right
>>>>> decision, knowing that whatever we decide will be well received by some,
>>>>> and not by others. It is our responsibility to weigh all factors from an
>>>>> ICANN Bylaws and policies perspective, including considering the
>>>>> global public interest. We have done this diligently, ensuring as much
>>>>> transparency as possible and welcoming input from stakeholders throughout.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-board-withholds-consent-for-a-change-of-control-of-the-public-interest-registry-pir
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